Art is a Real Job: Money Matters

Artist-led online event which draw on recommendations made in NAVA's new Code of Practice, Thursday 30 March.

Image: Emma Pham, 2023.
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Money Matters - Thursday 30 March 2023

Online | Registrations now open for everyone

8:00 am - 12:30 pm AWST Perth

9:30 am - 2:00 pm  ACST Darwin

10:00 am - 2:30 AEST Brisbane

10:30 am - 3:00 pm ACDT Adelaid

11:00 am - 3:30 AEDT Canberra, Hobart, Melbourne, Sydney

Art is a Real Job is a national program throughout March 2023. Dissect and champion NAVA’s new Code of Practice via four artist-led online events, including workshops, studio tours and panel conversations targeted at secondary school students, educators and pre-service educators.

In this session, participants will engage with contemporary Australian artists Kay Abude, Rachel Burke and Ryan Presley to explore ideas about money, learn about how good industry practice has helped shape their careers and navigate the art world with confidence.


Waiting room opens

7:15 AWST | 8:45 am ACST | 9:15 am AEST | 9:45 am ACDT | 10:15 am AEDT

The Art is a Real Job chat is moderated by NAVA Staff Emma Pham and Donnalyn Xu.

Welcome (15 min)

8:00 am AWST | 9:30 am ACST | 10:00 am AEST | 10:30 am ACDT | 11:00 am AEDT

Welcome to all the student artists and educators joining us for Art is a Real Job!

Workshop with Rachel Burke (60 min)

8:15 am AWST | 9:45 am ACST | 10:15 am AEST | 10:45 am ACDT | 11:15 am AEDT

Have your art tools and materials ready for a live workshop with artist Rachel Burke.

Break One (15 min)

9:15 am AWST | 10:45 am ACST | 11:15 am AEST | 11:45am ACDT | 12:15 pm AEDT

Take a break to eat, hydrate and move!

Studio Tour with Ryan Presley (40 min)

9:30 am AWST | 11:00 am ACST | 11:30 am AEST | 12:00 pm ACDT | 12:30 pm AEDT

Let artist-curator Ryan Presley take you behind the scenes in his studio.

Break Two (30 min)

10:10 am AWST | 11:40 am ACST | 12:10 pm AEST | 12:40 pm ACDT | 1:10 pm AEDT

Take a break to eat, hydrate and move!

Panel Exchange (30 min)

10:40 am AWST | 12:20 pm ACST | 12:40 pm AEST | 1:10 pm ACDT | 1:40 pm AEDT

Rachel Burke, Kay Abude, Ryan Presley and NAVA’s Alise Hardy answer your questions in this live panel conversation.

Break Three (10 min)

11:10 am AWST | 12:50 pm ACST | 1:10 pm AEST | 1:40 pm ACDT | 2:10 pm AEDT

Workshop with Kay Abude (60 min)

11:20 am AWST | 1:00 pm ACST | 1:20 pm AEST | 1:50 pm ACDT | 2:20 pm AEDT

Have your art tools and materials ready for a workshop with artist Kay Abude.

Farewell (10 min)

12:20 pm AWST | 1:50 pm ACST | 2:20 pm AEST | 2:50 pm ACDT | 3:20 pm AEDT

Thank you to all the student artists and art educators joined us for Art is a Real Job in March 2023!


Artist Kay Abude looking at the camera against a white background. Kay wears a dark hoodie and has their dark hair pulled off their face.

Image: Supplied by Artist

Kay Abude


Kay Abude is a multi-disciplinary artist living and working in Melbourne. Her practice spans diverse media, including sculpture, large-scale installation, photography, performance, video, and silk screen printing. Her works, often adorned with texts, function as provocations and explore themes of work, labour and money. Kay has shown commissioned work widely throughout Victoria and was a studio artist at Gertrude Contemporary, Melbourne from 2019 to 2022. Upcoming projects in 2023 include a solo exhibition at Passage, Prince Trade Centre, Haymarket, Sydney and a retail collaboration with Alpha60 and The Social Studio; the 2023 Peter Selzer Prize where she will present a new artwork at the Fiona and Sidney Myer Gallery, and the 2023-24 Mural Commission at The Showroom, London - her first exhibition in the United Kingdom.


Artist Rachel Burke sits in front of her colourful artwork

Photo: Supplied by Artist.

Rachel Burke 


Rachel Burke is a practicing multidisciplinary artist, designer, and author based in Brisbane, Australia. Known for her vibrant, tactile wearable artworks and iconic tinsel creations, her work is inspired by a love for naive craft materials and transforming the mundane into the magical. She has worked on creative collaborations with numerous global brands including Disney, ASOS, Lego, Audible, Airbnb and Sephora. Rachel has exhibited her work in gallery spaces across Australia, including The Museum of Brisbane, Saint Cloche Gallery, Hamer Hall, The Australian Centre of the Moving Image, Enough Space, GAFFA, and the Redlands Art Gallery.She has also published three books with Hardie Grant. Craft Roach, Be Dazzling and Daphne & Daisy.


Artist Ryan Presley looks to the camera, squinting with a slight smile. He is wearing a gold chain, dark top. A rusted roof and brick building is in the background.

Photo by Claire Letitia Reynolds.

Ryan Presley


Dr. Ryan Presley was born in 1987 in Alice Springs, and currently lives and works in Brisbane. His father’s family is Marri Ngarr and originate from the Moyle River region in the Northern Territory. His mother’s family were Scandinavian immigrants to Australia. Presley’s practice wrestles with themes of power and dominion—in particular, how religion and economic control served colonialism and empire building over time, and the representation of its customs and edifices in our everyday lives. Presley’s work has been included in: Hungry for Tim, Akademie der bildenden Künste, Vienna (2021); Just Not Australian, Artspace (2019); Trade Markings (Frontier Imaginaries Ed No. 5), Van Abbemuseum, Netherlands (2018); the 33rd Telstra National Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Art Awards, Darwin; and the TarraWarra Biennial: Endless Circulation (both 2016). His first major solo exhibition, Prosperity, was held at the Institute of Modern Art, Brisbane in 2018. His work is held in public collections, which include the Museum of Contemporary Art, National Gallery of Victoria, Art Gallery of South Australia, and the Queensland Art Gallery|Gallery of Modern Art. Presley completed a PhD at the Queensland College of Art, Griffith University, in 2016.


Do you have a question for one of the artists?

During the Panel Exchange artists will be answering your questions.

Materials List

Workshop with Rachel Burke

  • 1 x pantry box per person (think muesli box, cereal box, or any other card board box you might find tucked in the pantry)
  • Masking tape
  • Things to decorate your box with (think pom poms, old buttons, gems, pipe cleaners, whatever you fancy or check out Rachel's Instagram for inspiration).
  • Hot glue gun or pva glue per person
  • Scissors

Workshop with Kay Abude

Each participant will need:

  • 2-3 found images that explore the theme of money
  • the same image printed on A4 or A3 paper either in colour or black and white
  • 2 x A3 drawing cartridge paper
  • pens
  • markers
  • coloured pencils


Will Professional Development Certificates be provided to educators?

Certificates of attendance linked to AITSL standards will be provided via email following the session. Please complete a new registration for each educator or pre-service educator attending to ensure you receive your certificate.

What materials and tech is required to participate?

Educators are to provide materials and equipment for their students or self. A materials list, suggested webcam and Zoom instructions will be provided via email prior to the event/s.

Is Art is a Real Job accessible?

These online events via Zoom will be closed captioned and Auslan interpreted.

Will Art is a Real Job be recorded?

Unfortunately, NAVA doesn’t currently have the funding to cover licensing fees needed to publish a recording of Art is a Real Job. This may change in the future and we encourage you to sign up to NAVA's Newsletter to be notified if we are able to secure extra funding to pay licensing fees to the artists involved. In the meantime, you can access NAVA’s Teacher Toolkit for ideas on using the Code in the classroom and with young people.

Can independent artists/arts workers attend Art is a Real Job?



Alise Hardy
Education Coordinator, Schools

NAVA acknowledges and pays respects to the rightful custodians of the many First Nations Lands upon which this online event will be streamed and received. We recognise all Custodians of Country throughout all lands, waters and territories, and pay respect to First Nations communities' Ancestors and Elders. Sovereignty was never ceded.

Logos for NAVA and The Copyright Agency Cultural Fund

This project has been assisted by a grant from the Copyright Agency’s Cultural Fund.

Art is a Real Job: Money Matters